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Post by Burr on Oct 18, 2016 19:34:04 GMT
Can u add no OP items from dps? THe guardian rod is better than the legend whip. Its stupid
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Post by aidencrazy1 on Oct 18, 2016 19:38:28 GMT
Can u add no OP items from dps? THe guardian rod is better than the legend whip. Its stupid the legend wip is worth more
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Post by SunSeek on Oct 18, 2016 21:02:56 GMT
....... Now exclusively chance based items like custom items are a tricky subject. Unbreakable tools being a endgame luxury is a great idea. But giving out one time only items like the cocaine sugar, or god of meat, or special event items can be rather disheartening if you missed the opportunity. ... What? Wait, are you saying the server has gave out items with such a name as "cocaine sugar'? Who in the world thought that was an okay idea?
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Post by aidencrazy1 on Oct 18, 2016 21:21:19 GMT
....... Now exclusively chance based items like custom items are a tricky subject. Unbreakable tools being a endgame luxury is a great idea. But giving out one time only items like the cocaine sugar, or god of meat, or special event items can be rather disheartening if you missed the opportunity. ... What? Wait, are you saying the server has gave out items with such a name as "cocaine sugar'? Who in the world thought that was an okay idea? Ikr they say its g rated server when they have an item called cocaine and a beating stick like wth this is g rated not 13 and above
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Post by lisardcrew on Oct 18, 2016 22:23:37 GMT
<3NobleTreason<3 So... just wanted to add my 2 cents on here. I have no experience moderating or running a server. Some of the things you say I agree with and some I don't. I agree with: Socializing things (like the boat thing). Finding ways to lessen favoritism Not letting ppl claim land near warps just to sell them at inflated prices. Naming something "cocaine"? I don't like that. Please the majority I really have no thoughts on the warp thing, because honestly what's so awesome about being near a warp? I have run for 30 mins trying to find a friend's place on the server... that's something I don't mind, it helps me to see things on the server I may not be able to see otherwise. I know players are mad because there's no "easy" way to immediately get to a friend, but if a game is totally easy why play it? I like that there's no TP, I wouldn't be against adding warps tho. I don't see the donation shop as a "ransom" I see it as a bonus. We could do away with it all together and have a really vanilla server... but I like having it. Prices have gone down on items in it as well. I disagree with: I don't want to be around presidential debates, romance/sexual ideas, cursing, religious debates. I deal with so much of that crap in the real world. This (to me) is supposed to be a fun game. I like that it's PG. There are SO many places you can go and deal with all that, I like that I have one place to go where I don't have to. Staff setting prices on items... this kills the free trade idea. Then you get into the staff super-regulating EVERYTHING. Complaints on misunderstandings, coming up with dia to emerald, dia to iron, staff setting how many dias to pay a player who works for you. If someone comes on and spends 5 hours on the server, I don't really care if they have an Elytra RIGHT NOW. I haven't tried to get an Elytra from another server or from single-player. If you do it the non cheating way how many hours and how much work does it take to get an Elytra on another server or single-player mode (in survival). You have to gather resources to get to the End, find a ship, kill mobs (IDK about this one, I'm assuming), then find an Elytra. In survival mode of single-player can you do all that in less than 6 hours? I like that it takes work to get Elytra and heads and unbreakable tools... at least you can get them, for a set price. You don't have to mine for 16 hours either, you can work for ppl, sell resources, etc. This involves you in the server, and to me makes a more enjoyable experience. I truly believe that not enforcing rules is part of the issue. If you enforce with some and not with others, that's favoritism. No cursing, no griefing, respecting players, all the rules we have now are pretty bare bones. How would you prefer the rules to change and lessen? TL;DR If we open up chat to political discussions I'm out. Sry, that's my honest reaction there. Why do we need "fan fiction" on a MC server... I don't understand this. Yes the server should try to be fair You don't need everything you want right now Elytras take work, and work is a good thing Let's not let staff set prices... that's a LOT of power right there, and I like free trade Be nice and don't sell warp land right after you claim a bunch of it. Have fun more and complain about others less. Have staff communicate more when OP items are being given out OR Get rid of ALL OP items so there's no more complaining from anyone anymore. I have played on this server for about a year. The OP items I have are: 2 Elytras, 1 walking stick (nerfed from voting) and 1 God of Steak. That's it. I don't have hundreds of Dia/Emerald blocks. I don't ask people to give me OP items. I don't make friends with someone in order to get things. I just want to build and have fun. Now I'm going to go to a random server and see how long it takes to get an Elytra... are they really THAT easily accessible on other servers?!? That makes no sense to me.
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Post by Dr_Positive on Oct 18, 2016 23:34:46 GMT
I'm annoyed that all the super rare one time dp items are based off of whether you can be on at the time of the dp (aka spending most of the week and day online playing in hope of a admin dp) or knowing the right people to obtain them. Things like the guardian rod, cocaine, and other one time items should be end game items not luck of the draw items. I have been on here since 1.8 and I have never had the chance to participate in or even hear of a mod/admin dp. Whereas I see players that have been on half as long as me who are able to play all day that have gotten these one time items. I play even less now due to school, so my chances of ever even seeing a one time item are incredibly slim. I would like to see a more solid way to get these such as an uber expensive rare shop item or instead set up an EXTRA hard command block dungeon for players to try and complete to get these items.
TLDR: one time items can't be obtained in any way for those players who can't play that much even though they are a senior player.
If there was some way for people like me who don't have a lot of time on their hands to obtain the one time items like the guardian rod and cocaine that would be great.
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Post by astrayalien on Oct 19, 2016 0:35:07 GMT
These special items should not be given out at drop parties. Players who miss out will feel disappointment. Play for a year and earn items through hard work and as voting rewards. This instant gratification creates bad feeling.
I don't have a Guardian Rod and I have been on the server for about a year. Who cares? These things are not needed. Go and look at my large building near spawn, the Jack O Lantern tower. Everything I built I gained through normal game play.
Be creative. Start from nothing and build up.
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Post by aidencrazy1 on Oct 19, 2016 0:55:06 GMT
These special items should not be given out at drop parties. Players who miss out will feel disappointment. Play for a year and earn items through hard work and as voting rewards. This instant gratification creates bad feeling. I don't have a Guardian Rod and I have been on the server for about a year. Who cares? These things are not needed. Go and look at my large building near spawn, the Jack O Lantern tower. Everything I built I gained through normal game play. Be creative. Start from nothing and build up. No cus if your new and you get something op from a drop you will feel like you have to stay. Why? well its like something thats rare in a game you will want to stay and play more.
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Post by Dr_Positive on Oct 19, 2016 0:57:30 GMT
These special items should not be given out at drop parties. Players who miss out will feel disappointment. Play for a year and earn items through hard work and as voting rewards. This instant gratification creates bad feeling. I don't have a Guardian Rod and I have been on the server for about a year. Who cares? These things are not needed. Go and look at my large building near spawn, the Jack O Lantern tower. Everything I built I gained through normal game play. Be creative. Start from nothing and build up. This^
The items need to be earnable from hard work not hand outs. I have done everything on SS from grinding and working my way up and making grinding easier and more efficient for myself. I have NEVER received a free handout on SS and frankly I would like to get these items but they are only obtainable through the DPs which only the people who are constantly on can get.
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Post by debatesmith on Oct 20, 2016 4:04:50 GMT
A quick update on the NO op items in dp's We are going to stop giving out guardian rods in dp's and are further discussing all other OP items. This thread has been a really good start, and it is stickied at the top of this forums section, so anytime you come up with something you think deserves our attention, please post it in here. Thank you guys
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Post by Gemini on Oct 20, 2016 6:06:51 GMT
These special items should not be given out at drop parties. Players who miss out will feel disappointment. Play for a year and earn items through hard work and as voting rewards. This instant gratification creates bad feeling. I don't have a Guardian Rod and I have been on the server for about a year. Who cares? These things are not needed. Go and look at my large building near spawn, the Jack O Lantern tower. Everything I built I gained through normal game play. Be creative. Start from nothing and build up. This^
The items need to be earnable from hard work not hand outs. I have done everything on SS from grinding and working my way up and making grinding easier and more efficient for myself. I have NEVER received a free handout on SS and frankly I would like to get these items but they are only obtainable through the DPs which only the people who are constantly on can get. Just to clarify, the cocaine wasn't actually given out at drop parties, it was a reward for a group of players who spent time and effort to build a sort of monument as thanks for all the mods on the server. Being one of the few who worked on this project, we can assure you that we were not expecting any sort of reward for building this monument, it was out of our own gratitude and initiative, it was a pleasant surprise to be rewarded with the cocaine and we weren't doing it just to benefit and gain favour/rewards from the mods. However, I do agree about the OP items in drop party issue, being someone who lives in Hong Kong, I am never on when drop parties happen as I am in school, the one single time I attended a drop party because I was on vacation, my terrible ping caused me to pick up nothing at all. ;-;
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Post by smokapoka on Oct 20, 2016 6:52:04 GMT
I completely agree that giving away OP items and dp's is very wrong. Two main reasons here: - It gives random people huge economical and game advantage If you were unlucky to get one yourself you have 2 options: spend ridiculous amount of diamond blocks or get used to be overpowered by much lower rank members - It's very discouraging for loyal long time members of the server (some dp items are more powerful than legend reward which is ridiculous) Same as above. Why would you vote if you can just take your chances at DPs On topic of warps.... Call me crazy but I'd just get rid of all of them. That would encourage people to build and use roads, railroads, nether tunnels, elytras etc... its so much fun. Since world is pretty big we could maybe have like 4 in very far ends of the world.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 10:57:48 GMT
The damage is already done with the OP items, putting more in until the next reset would be fine imo. Would even out the playing feild abit and drop things like guardian rods to reasonable prices.
After another reset though (whenever that may be) I'd like to see them gone almost completely, infact I thought that was part of the reason for the 1.9 reset? but then more were added :/
I can understand it being fun to Schaum making these items and giving out afew, but it causes arguments that staff have to deal with, its so demotivating for anyone to go into pvp2 against a guardian rod, its almost twice the dps of an epic sword which I believe was the next best weapon at the time.
And then to see walking sticks nerfed by 90% because it was OP with a super compass? Yet all these items are in the game which cause wayyyy more issues than the walking stick... :s
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Post by Dr_Positive on Oct 20, 2016 11:12:27 GMT
A quick update on the NO op items in dp's We are going to stop giving out guardian rods in dp's and are further discussing all other OP items. This thread has been a really good start, and it is stickied at the top of this forums section, so anytime you come up with something you think deserves our attention, please post it in here. Thank you guys What about those players who still wish to obtain the op items, but had always missed the dps? I'd like to see someway for people who aren't on 24/7 to get them. And if you do remove them completely then that still leaves the problem of the people with them. They'll have an even bigger economic advantage because they are now rare.
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Post by work on Oct 20, 2016 11:22:58 GMT
I don't like the fact that Schaum dropped so many Guardian Rods, anything else would have been pretty fine. It's just that that item is way to overpowered for a lot of people to have, so it makes PVP a little repetitive seeing 5+ people in the arenas with Rods. Not to mention that a majority of the people that own one also have some sort of speed item.
On the point of Cocaine and Beating Stick being inappropriate, I don't think it is. Cocaine is meant as a joke because its insanely fast, and the Beating Stick is a mod item i believe? I might change my opinion because I'm not sure.
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