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Post by Nick on Oct 18, 2017 14:01:27 GMT
Elytras are gone from the end, and this creates a new problem. Players with the elytras can now, when the end resets, fly to the cities, meaning non-elytra users are at a massive disadvantage, and Elytra users can just keep making loads and loads of money by inflating prices or worse, keeping the elytras for themselves. This means that elytras would stay at an OTT price, and every reset the same thing would constantly happen.
- Postpone the end until at least the end of November, or even Christmas if need be
- Set a price on elytras. So players don't end up selling for loads, perhaps make it so Billy sells an elytra for a certain price, such as 15 - 20DB
- Include an elytra in a vote reward?
EDIT:
- Scroll down, and implement what Shan suggested.
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Post by thewinner4me on Oct 18, 2017 16:03:22 GMT
Honestly, this isn't a huge issue. People without an elytra would still eventually find one in the end if they tried hard enough. If the price of elytras goes up then people will either have to buy them or just go without, and this isn't going to be much of an issue. If the people with elytra get them all then they might end up with too many. If they put the price up too far then nobody will buy them, or at least very few will, meaning they will have to lower it to the point where people will buy them.
Postponing it still won't change it, it'll happen later then.
Staff setting a price on most any items (directly of course) has almost always, if not actually always, been a no no. Billys selling elytras would make sense since they did in the past, which would be different to staff directly setting prices on elytra. Also, I don't know if this was the case, but I think elytra sold by Billy were initially set to meet up with the community prices at the time.
Including an elytra as a vote reward would be nice, but it seems a little unnecessary. At Legend (450 votes is ages away, I know) you get a super stronk elytra anyway.
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Post by Nick on Oct 18, 2017 17:23:18 GMT
Honestly, this isn't a huge issue. People without an elytra would still eventually find one in the end if they tried hard enough. If the price of elytras goes up then people will either have to buy them or just go without, and this isn't going to be much of an issue. If the people with elytra get them all then they might end up with too many. If they put the price up too far then nobody will buy them, or at least very few will, meaning they will have to lower it to the point where people will buy them. Postponing it still won't change it, it'll happen later then. Staff setting a price on most any items (directly of course) has almost always, if not actually always, been a no no. Billys selling elytras would make sense since they did in the past, which would be different to staff directly setting prices on elytra. Also, I don't know if this was the case, but I think elytra sold by Billy were initially set to meet up with the community prices at the time. Including an elytra as a vote reward would be nice, but it seems a little unnecessary. At Legend (450 votes is ages away, I know) you get a super stronk elytra anyway. Have you got an elytra? Considering elytras aren't a huge game changer (In terms of pvp OPness and that sort of thing), but more economy changer, including it in a voting rank such as Elite wouldn't be too bad. Just a normal elytra. Postponing would mean more time for vote ranks to be implimented, and may also change the price of elytras. Eventually could mean anything. I guarantee you each end reset, people without elytras finding elytras will be harder, as it means more people in the sky.
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Post by poogan on Oct 18, 2017 19:10:01 GMT
Your putting to much thought into this. If you want a elytra be there for the end reset. It's almost guaranteed you will find one with or without an elytra. Just be there
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Post by Kydog on Oct 18, 2017 19:29:23 GMT
I think everyone who wants elytras to be super easy to get is forgetting that they are an end game item. It shouldn’t be something you immediately get.
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Post by Nick on Oct 18, 2017 19:32:31 GMT
I think everyone who wants elytras to be super easy to get is forgetting that they are an end game item. It shouldn’t be something you immediately get. Though ironic since elytra users will be able to get them much easily. This isn't a singleplayer world.
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Post by warlordn1k on Oct 18, 2017 19:50:14 GMT
setting a price will end with black market or players just not selling them. best bet is to sell them in the billy shops a week or so b4 the end is reset. the elytra is an op endgame item and we need to keep that in mind. i was there at the open of the end and got mine then cut out. came back the next day geard up a bit better got a few boxes. I have not been back to the end and mostlikly will not untill the reset for some more boxes. to be continued... brb
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Post by Shan on Oct 18, 2017 19:57:57 GMT
Possible solution for this would be to add a flag on the global region for the end disabling the use of elytra. Would make it so if you already have one you can’t use it to raid more end cities.
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Post by Nick on Oct 18, 2017 20:07:45 GMT
setting a price will end with black market or players just not selling them. best bet is to sell them in the billy shops a week or so b4 the end is reset. the elytra is an op endgame item and we need to keep that in mind. i was there at the open of the end and got mine then cut out. came back the next day geard up a bit better got a few boxes. I have not been back to the end and mostlikly will not untill the reset for some more boxes. to be continued... brb Which sucks for players who don't have... Thanks for explaining.
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Post by Shadow on Oct 18, 2017 20:09:27 GMT
Possible solution for this would be to add a flag on the global region for the end disabling the use of elytra. Would make it so if you already have one you can’t use it to raid more end cities. That's something that's possible? Interesting. Would be cool to see that implemented. Would force everyone onto an even playing field for End resets. As for the other points Nick made above, the reset is set for the 4th of December, 2 months after the reopening. As for the Billy shop, I'd be in support of it. I was initially opposed to the idea what with all the scramble to rebuild at the beginning but if it could help players and even the economy not get overwhelmed by greed, then I'm all for it. And finally, an elytra for a vote reward, it's something we could consider but of course, will make no promises. Thank you for your suggestions.
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Post by warlordn1k on Oct 18, 2017 20:57:33 GMT
let me try to finish my point that got cut short we need to make it hard early game to get those items. like the unbreakable tools you can buy them but takes some time to get all the diamonds and emeralds for, or beacons where you have to be lucky or spend a ton of time making a wither spawning platform. ok idk if that fishis my point or not will move on.
Shan i never thought of that i support that idea for the end. will make having an elytra pointless in the end and do it like in single player b4 we got an elytra soo keeping the endgame item it is.
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Post by amrou on Oct 18, 2017 21:14:55 GMT
Possible solution for this would be to add a flag on the global region for the end disabling the use of elytra. Would make it so if you already have one you can’t use it to raid more end cities. if this can be done I am all for it!
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Post by Nick on Oct 18, 2017 21:19:58 GMT
Possible solution for this would be to add a flag on the global region for the end disabling the use of elytra. Would make it so if you already have one you can’t use it to raid more end cities. if this can be done I am all for it! Same.
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Post by warlordn1k on Oct 18, 2017 21:59:12 GMT
if this can be done I am all for it! Same. same lol had too
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Post by Shan on Oct 18, 2017 22:00:09 GMT
Possible solution for this would be to add a flag on the global region for the end disabling the use of elytra. Would make it so if you already have one you can’t use it to raid more end cities. That's something that's possible? Interesting. Would be cool to see that implemented. Would force everyone onto an even playing field for End resets. As for the other points Nick made above, the reset is set for the 4th of December, 2 months after the reopening. As for the Billy shop, I'd be in support of it. I was initially opposed to the idea what with all the scramble to rebuild at the beginning but if it could help players and even the economy not get overwhelmed by greed, then I'm all for it. And finally, an elytra for a vote reward, it's something we could consider but of course, will make no promises. Thank you for your suggestions. Possible solution for this would be to add a flag on the global region for the end disabling the use of elytra. Would make it so if you already have one you can’t use it to raid more end cities. if this can be done I am all for it! Yep it is something that is possible & easily done/implemented. All Schaum would have to do is go to the end and do: Then boom. No more Elytra use in the end.
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