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Post by strongmamabear on Oct 2, 2017 3:23:59 GMT
IMO, not giving back voting ranks due to it being "easier" is absurd (no offense to you, Michael, this in reference to it as an admin decision). It is egregiously incompetent of them to work with data and not adhere to basic tenents of backups - having multiple in different locations. It was "easier" to not invest the thousands and thousands of dollars in donation money over the years in technology to facilitate proper backups for the data of those who are providing the cash. The recent corruption incident should also have been a wake-up call. Still, no off-site backup was done! It might take time, but I really think that in addition to donation benefits, any verifiable proof of voting rank with screenshots should be honored in the least, to try to make it up to the loyal player base for the very bad handling of this situation. not trying to start a war but what other reason could they have? aside from player honesty That is my point, there is no reason other than it being easier, and that is not a good reason. If a player has screenshot proof (logs can be easily manipulated), they should get votes back. The recent fiasco had a lot of people save/get proof of votes, so many players should have recoverable vote info.
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Post by enmos on Oct 2, 2017 4:10:32 GMT
Why can't our vote ranks be restored? Unfortunately, Schaum is the only one with the ability to set ranks. This causes a few potential conflicts. Time zones, dishonesty, amount of time required, inaccuracy, etc.
What about chat logs?
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Post by Shadow on Oct 2, 2017 6:10:35 GMT
I apologize for the delay, enmos. As of right now, they're still going to be reset BUT it is still being discussed. We'll update according.
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Post by Michael0z0 on Oct 2, 2017 7:14:52 GMT
not trying to start a war but what other reason could they have? aside from player honesty That is my point, there is no reason other than it being easier, and that is not a good reason. If a player has screenshot proof (logs can be easily manipulated), they should get votes back. The recent fiasco had a lot of people save/get proof of votes, so many players should have recoverable vote info. Sorry must have misread your post
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Azrael
Steve
Looking for companions to build and a frequent buyer of sandstone
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Post by Azrael on Oct 2, 2017 9:53:23 GMT
So i suppose my sandstone is gone... Either way i will look forward to exploring the new world and create again even though everything that took so much time disappeared. If someone who appreciates sandstone for it's magnificent wants to team up when the server is up count me in.
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Post by timbo303 on Oct 2, 2017 16:36:37 GMT
I really hope I can get my infinite sethomes back, I was on this server for 2+ years and I would hate to buy Epic just to get my unlimited sethomes back again That would break the eula rules in my opinion if you don't do this since I had already earned it in the first place. Here is proof I was legend at some point in time: and even video proof:
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Post by jbear0000 on Oct 2, 2017 19:19:50 GMT
I'm not the type of person to buy things like ranks, items or anything. For me it feels like cheating to instantly get stuff in exchange for money. I don't even know what can be purchased because that isn't my thing or how I play. I earned everything I had on the server through votes and game play. If I get none of that back I see no reason to keep playing on this server and where I choose to play I have my daughter, a friend and her daughter will follow me. So that is 4 players who were dedicated to this server gone. We were building a town together. I often claimed and repaired abandoned buildings to preserve some of the creations from being griefed and even returned them if the player came back to the server. Has anyone even considered contacting minecraft-server-list.com and other vote sites to see if they have records of votes? If you could give us ranks, claim blocks and special items back that would be a good start. Otherwise, restarting with nothing seems totally pointless to me. I could start over anywhere and there is no reason to do so here if it isn't worthwhile some how.
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Post by Nick on Oct 2, 2017 19:31:03 GMT
Who in their right mind can tell me that denying players old donator items is justifiable? I and many others donated hard earned cash to get items, such as unbreakable tools, unbreakable elytras and other things of the such, for it to just disappear into thin air. What's even more pathetic is the fact that it is none of the players fault. If I were to drop an item into lava and be told I can't get it refunded, thats fine. However this, has to be breaking some rules. Seriously, come on.
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Post by Kydog on Oct 2, 2017 19:38:27 GMT
Sorry, but the “people could lie” thing is a poor reason to reset ranks. So we’re gonna let the 10% of dishonest people ruin everything for the rest of the server? If you can prove what rank you’re at, you should get the votes for that rank( and the rank of course). As zai suggested you could just make all of a rank have the same number of votes. For example, a Glorious would get 240 votes. There was an issue with ranks a month ago as well, yet staff reset them and it wasn’t a huge issue. As for the “only Schaum can reset them” issue, you could give all staff rank setting abilities for a few weeks. To keep it organized, make another report thread. If you need more proof, reach out to mcsl. It’s a very solvable issue and it doesn’t seem like enough thought has been given to possible solutions.
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Post by Kydog on Oct 2, 2017 19:39:30 GMT
Who in their right mind can tell me that denying players old donator items is justifiable? I and many others donated hard earned cash to get items, such as unbreakable tools, unbreakable elytras and other things of the such, for it to just disappear into thin air. What's even more pathetic is the fact that it is none of the players fault. If I were to drop an item into lava and be told I can't get it refunded, thats fine. However this, has to be breaking some rules. Seriously, come on. should be the same with voter ranks.
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Post by racecartacocat on Oct 2, 2017 19:46:13 GMT
There should seriously be some compensation here. It's not our fault. I'm more annoyed that the 25+ bucks I spent on packages back in 2015 are now unclaimable.
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Post by jbear0000 on Oct 2, 2017 19:52:10 GMT
It is very odd that a record of permanently banned players exists, but not a record of all of our votes.
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Post by Knootmare on Oct 2, 2017 20:01:34 GMT
It is very odd that a record of permanently banned players exists, but not a record of all of our votes. On this specific point, please note that the permanent bans are being manually input, since there's so few of them.
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Post by johnboner on Oct 2, 2017 20:17:27 GMT
So given that I donated to the server several years ago, during a time when Archangel and Kinkyklinks were still co-owners, and the package I donated for is no longer available, how am I to reclaim said bonuses such as a nickname and my player skull? The other things that were part of the package I could care less about, but those two are pretty important to me.
Edit: Oh yeah and of course the unbreakable tools and elytra packages that alot of us donated for, including myself.
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Post by Kazuniro on Oct 2, 2017 20:18:05 GMT
Who in their right mind can tell me that denying players old donator items is justifiable? I and many others donated hard earned cash to get items, such as unbreakable tools, unbreakable elytras and other things of the such, for it to just disappear into thin air. What's even more pathetic is the fact that it is none of the players fault. If I were to drop an item into lava and be told I can't get it refunded, thats fine. However this, has to be breaking some rules. Seriously, come on. should be the same with voter ranks. I don't want to disrupt any more than I need to, however, some people received items before the EULA terms that removed ability to buy such items. I, got an unbreakable Elytra, which was still one of my prized possessions due to how much I traveled in my early days. I can understand not restoring items players earned in-game, however while some may be lying, anyone who's been around long enough to buy such items could be reinforced by other players being there and making sure of their truth. As it stands, I'm fairly sure not a lot of people knew about my Unbreakable Elytra, and I'm fine with not getting it back. Although I know Nick certainly had Unbreakable tools, and that other had them too. I know the work involved in interrogating everyone on the server, however, if you are going to run such a massive server, massive consequences will be happening. I wouldn't mind helping in that too.
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